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WestHamRon
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Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:46 pm Posts: 232 Location: Eastbourne
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 Sharpening knives
Can anyone explain why every time I try to sharpen my knife using a steel I make it even more blunt? I draw the blade down the steel at a 20 degree angle as most online searches have suggested. Is it because I'm left-handed?
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| Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:08 pm |
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Granny
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Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:13 pm Posts: 354 Location: Just north of Cambridge
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 Re: Sharpening knives
So glad you asked this question WHR, I have exactly the same problem - and I'm left-handed. I just thought it was me being inept. --------------------- Granny
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| Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:01 am |
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Johnboy
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Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:15 pm Posts: 5405 Location: NW Herefordshire
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 Re: Sharpening knives
Hi Both, If you have a friendly Butcher ask him to show you how. I think that 20 degrees is too shallow and the strokes must be at all times firm. I now use a diamond sharpener and my knives are of very good quality steel and are too sharp if anything. I have a Prestige vegetable knife that you simple cannot sharpen because it is made of crap quality steel. JB.
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| Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:16 am |
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Chantal
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Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:53 am Posts: 5462 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire
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Does this help? http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-sha ... hen-knivesIt's how I sharpen my knives and I was shown by a bloke who worked in the local abbatoir. 
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| Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:53 pm |
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Tigger
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Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:00 pm Posts: 3187 Location: Shropshire
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 Re: Sharpening knives
You also need to have a good steel in the first place and they don't last forever. Much as it pains me to admit this, whilst my James Martin Stellar knives are great (as are the saucepans and the various other bits of kit - please don't ask how many I have) the steel is useless and we have written to the manufacturers to tell them so.
There are some diamond steels available and they are really good. We've swapped to one of these. Axminster Tools sell a really good one.
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| Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:17 pm |
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WestHamRon
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Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:46 pm Posts: 232 Location: Eastbourne
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 Re: Sharpening knives
Thank you all for your advice. I'm really confused, I have scraped my knife down a brick wall and can feel it's sharp afterwards. Trying to hone the edge on my steel has completely the opposite effect. Ihave posted this on two other forums and have been given conflicting advice: firm strokes/ stroke the steel ? It seems some people can sharpen knives, others can't. I shall have to try and find a friendly chef.This will be not too difficult as I deliver booze to restaurants,but if i get stopped in my van with an eight inch kitchen knife on board, I don't relish the conversation with Plod ! 
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| Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:26 pm |
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PAULW
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Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:14 pm Posts: 97
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 Re: Sharpening knives
WHR As a slaughterman/knackerman/butcher, 1 you do not sharpen a knife on a steel you put an edge on it, if you have a blunt knife you can steel till kingdom come and you will never sharpen it, you have to put the knife on a stone first to sharpen it then onto a steel when the blade goes dull.
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| Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:53 pm |
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Gilly C
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Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:45 pm Posts: 246 Location: SW france Dept 16
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 Re: Sharpening knives
I bought a sharpener from lakeland works well made Chantry and the sharpening bit can be replaced £27 about £7 for new bit hth
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| Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:10 pm |
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Geoff
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Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:33 pm Posts: 2749 Location: Forest of Bowland
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 Re: Sharpening knives
Using a strip of 1" wide emery, that you can buy on a roll, as a strop on a hook on the back of a door works well.
_________________ Anything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough.
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| Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:50 am |
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Westi
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Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:46 pm Posts: 924 Location: Dorset
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 Re: Sharpening knives
Hi
I got myself one of those water sharpeners and it is great. Two wheels in a little holder that you fill with water and pull the knives through. Wouldn't have except it was recommended for the posh knives I got for my birthday a couple of years ago but it has been worth its weight in gold. Just couldn't get to grips with a steel.
Westi
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| Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:11 pm |
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Johnboy
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Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:15 pm Posts: 5405 Location: NW Herefordshire
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Hi Westi, I feel that you should be reported to the "Cruelty to Knives Police" JB.
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| Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:06 am |
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Elderflower
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Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:19 pm Posts: 216 Location: Derbyshire
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 Re: Sharpening knives
When I was little I remember my dad sharpening the carving knife on the doorstep. Ee, haven`t thought about that for many a year.
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| Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:58 am |
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WestHamRon
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Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:46 pm Posts: 232 Location: Eastbourne
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 Re: Sharpening knives
I have stumbled upon the solution. Sharpen the knife backwards ! Instead of the blade facing the way you are moving the knife, have the edge to be sharpened facing away from the downstroke, I got the idea watching a chef use a whetstone. 
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| Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:03 pm |
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