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Nature's Babe
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Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:02 pm Posts: 2471 Location: East Sussex
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
Hi Johnboy, Moles talk about grafting here... http://www.molesseeds.co.uk/flower_and_ ... matoes.pdfhopefully they still have seeds, though I couldn't see them on line, I asked and am waiting for a reply.
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| Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:07 pm |
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Johnboy
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Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:15 pm Posts: 5405 Location: NW Herefordshire
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
Hi NB, Thank you for the info. It seems that Moles are now putting out information sheets like D. T. Brown Commercial used to do. Very clear and precise with good sound information. JB.
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| Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:30 am |
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Tigger
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Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:00 pm Posts: 3187 Location: Shropshire
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
We've bought four different grafted tomato plants this year to compare them with our (numerous) home grown varieties, just to see if it's worth doing.
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| Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:14 pm |
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Gerry
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Joined: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:55 am Posts: 244 Location: West Cork,
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
Hi all,
I raised this subject last year as I had seeds of "He-man" from Moles seeds. There was an article in the March 2010 issue of KG on this and the advise was to sow rootstock seeds 8 to 12 days prior days to sowing the fruit seed. When I did this, using Moneymaker to practice the grafts, the rootstock germinated within about 3 days so that put paid to that theory. I e-mailed Moles and they sent me an instruction sheet which said to sow rootstock approximately 4 days prior to sowing the fruit (I used Shirley and Sungold this time). Germination was still miles apart.
With the instruction sheet was an e-mail from Robert Aldsworth their Vegetable Seed Manager and I quote "I think there are two potential issues here which have led to your problem.
Firstly, I think 8-12 days is too long a time gap; we normaly recommend 4 days (see attached guide).
Secondly....The He-Man we supply is professional grade seed of a leading hybrid variety, which means that it is graded to ensure the germination is at least 90%, while the effect of hybrid vigour is such that it will germinate much more efficiently. In addition to this our He-Man seed is primed (i.e. partially germinated) to ensure rapid and even development.
To sumarise, I think you should sow at most 4 days apart, but many people sow them together in the same pot. To get the real benefit of grafting you really want to use a high performance scion variety with the hybrid rootstock." unquote.
I tried again this year, putting both in the same pot, but just couldn't get both the same size so finnished up cutting out the He-Man and growing on the Shirley and Sungold. I won't be trying again.
Hope this helps, Regards, Gerry.
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| Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:01 pm |
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Nature's Babe
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Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:02 pm Posts: 2471 Location: East Sussex
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
I found the link but quite expensive for min 50 seeds, plus special clips http://www.molesseeds.co.uk/flower_and_ ... 50_20_2002scroll down for seed info
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| Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:45 am |
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Tigger
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Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:00 pm Posts: 3187 Location: Shropshire
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
They are expensive but as grafted plants are between £4 and £7 each, it still works out cheaper to do your own. I'm going to see how my trial plants go and then decide. They're already at least 4 times the size of my best ones and the first trusses have set.
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| Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:43 pm |
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Nature's Babe
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Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:02 pm Posts: 2471 Location: East Sussex
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
hI Tigger, just wondering how your grafted plants fared? I saw this on victoriana website. http://www.victoriananursery.co.uk/vege ... tomtatoes/
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| Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:17 pm |
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Tigger
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Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:00 pm Posts: 3187 Location: Shropshire
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
They've been (and still are) fantastic. Much bigger than any other of my tomato plants, fruited about 4 weeks earlier, really prolific. They need more tying in than the others and are pretty thirsty, but I would definitely grow them again. I think I will be ordering some rootstock and clips!
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| Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:48 pm |
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Nature's Babe
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Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:02 pm Posts: 2471 Location: East Sussex
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
Which rootstock Tigger, when I looked they only did big quantities. Looking at the grafting clips they look like my clothes pegs might do as well. 
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| Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:42 pm |
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peacocks
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Joined: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:24 pm Posts: 14
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
We were given 3 grafted tomatoes as a present. I'm not sure what variety they were except that they were Japenese. They grow to over 6" tall but the tomatoes are similar in size and shape to strawberries, fairly sparse on the trusses and are not a patch on Shirley, grown from seed, on the allotment We certainly wouldn't bother with them again.
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| Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:49 am |
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Nature's Babe
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Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:02 pm Posts: 2471 Location: East Sussex
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
Just wondering if a cape gooseberry could be grafted onto a potato, same family.  Two crops in one?
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| Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:03 pm |
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peter
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Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:54 pm Posts: 3929 Location: Near Stansted airport
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
Tomato onto Potato has been done I believe.
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| Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:24 pm |
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Nature's Babe
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Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:02 pm Posts: 2471 Location: East Sussex
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
Yes Peter, they have, tomtatoes. I posted a link showing them earlier in this thread
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| Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:46 pm |
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Tigger
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Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:00 pm Posts: 3187 Location: Shropshire
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
I haven't decided yet NB. Still working my way through the catalogues!
I'll let you know as soon as we've made a choice.
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| Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:51 pm |
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Nature's Babe
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Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:02 pm Posts: 2471 Location: East Sussex
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 Re: Grafted tomatoes
Thank you Tigger 
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